Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

[john doe]

Hi list,

How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter?
Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my
credentials before logging into 'MATE'.

[Alex ARNAUD]

Post by john doe
Hi list,
How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter?
Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my
credentials before logging into 'MATE'.

Hello John,

I use the following command on Debian to remove Orca on lightdm :
sudo mv /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save && sudo mv
/etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf
/etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save

Best regards.

[john doe]

Post by Alex ARNAUD

Post by john doe
Hi list,
How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter?
Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter
my credentials before logging into 'MATE'.

Hello John,
sudo mv /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save && sudo mv
/etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf
/etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save

Thanks Alex -- It works! :)
I only had to do it for the second path though.

Could be something for the wiki along with the following:

Turning orca off when logged in:

In startup applications From menu System> Preferences > Personal >
Startup Applications uncheck orca [image].

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Post by john doe
How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter?

I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit?

Post by john doe
Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my
credentials before logging into 'MATE'.

Just wondering: why do you want to do this? IIRC Orca doesn't speak
the password letters, just "bullet" or something like that, which
is actually useful to make sure that the password is getting typed
correctly (and not showing up in some other part of the login screen...)

Samuel

[Samuel Thibault]

Post by Samuel Thibault

Post by john doe
How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter?

I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit?

Alternatively, I guess insert-s can turn speech off temporarily.

Samuel

[john doe]

Post by Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Post by john doe
How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter?

I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit?

Post by john doe
Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my
credentials before logging into 'MATE'.

Just wondering: why do you want to do this? IIRC Orca doesn't speak
the password letters, just "bullet" or something like that, which
is actually useful to make sure that the password is getting typed
correctly (and not showing up in some other part of the login screen...)

No argument there , it is working as it should.
Has explained in a previous thread I install Debian for sited user and
those users don't need orca speaking to them!!! :)
That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need
to keep orca/speakup when I help them.

I must say I never understood why installing Debian with accessibility
would assume that accessibility should be enabled at boot on the
installed system.

I'm playing with kernel boot parameter, could the following do what I want?

boot install DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text priority=low speakup.synth=soft

I'm open to any suggestions.

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Post by john doe
Has explained in a previous thread I install Debian for sited user

I'm afraid I just can't manage to remember all of what is happening here
and there, there are just too many mails in my mbox.

Now I do remember the thread about adding a debconf question in the
debian installer, but so many things happened and made its way to my
mbox in the meanwhile (like a hundred of mails, litteraly) that it's far
away in my head, unless you link things by reusing the same mail thread.

Post by john doe
That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need to
keep orca/speakup when I help them.

So you basically need both, actually. As a short-term solution in your
case, is having to modify something on the filesystem (renaming a file
somewhere in /usr or /var etc.) fine enough?

Actually, on the long run what we'd want is sort of the contrary to
disabling orca :) be able to enable orca one-shot at the DM. IIRC, there
are DM shortcuts to start orca? At least I believe that's what we should
aim for.

Post by john doe
I must say I never understood why installing Debian with accessibility would
assume that accessibility should be enabled at boot on the installed system.

Well, at the very very very least the first reboot should have it
enabled, otherwise it's dumb to have accessibility during installation
but not right after: install something, but not have hands on it after
the fact.

Samuel

[john doe]

Hi Samuel,

Post by Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Post by john doe
Has explained in a previous thread I install Debian for sited user

I'm afraid I just can't manage to remember all of what is happening here
and there, there are just too many mails in my mbox.

No problem -- That's why I took the liberty to put it back in context!

Post by Samuel Thibault
Now I do remember the thread about adding a debconf question in the
debian installer, but so many things happened and made its way to my
mbox in the meanwhile (like a hundred of mails, litteraly) that it's far
away in my head, unless you link things by reusing the same mail thread.

It's actually a new thread with a new question.
I simply answerd your question.

Post by Samuel Thibault

Post by john doe
That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need to
keep orca/speakup when I help them.

So you basically need both, actually. As a short-term solution in your
case, is having to modify something on the filesystem (renaming a file
somewhere in /usr or /var etc.) fine enough?

I'm fine with the help from the list and some online searching.

Post by Samuel Thibault
Actually, on the long run what we'd want is sort of the contrary to
disabling orca :) be able to enable orca one-shot at the DM. IIRC, there
are DM shortcuts to start orca? At least I believe that's what we should
aim for.

I'm fine eatherway and What I want is atypical:

1) Without using expert mode things should stay as it is.
2) Using expert mode the user could choose what he wants.

Post by Samuel Thibault

Post by john doe
I must say I never understood why installing Debian with accessibility would
assume that accessibility should be enabled at boot on the installed system.

Well, at the very very very least the first reboot should have it
enabled, otherwise it's dumb to have accessibility during installation
but not right after: install something, but not have hands on it after
the fact.

Depends of the priority used.
If priority 'low' is used the installer should never assumed but ask for
everything.

I realy appreciate your help, Samuel.